Zoo, you are an idiot, dude. I can say this because: * In 3rd grade, after school, some older kids picked me up and threw me in a shitpile. So in my past, I have been oppressed, * A couple of generations ago 6 million of my people were killed by white people. You are white, and therefore, my people have been oppressed by your people in the past. * A few generations ago, Jews in the Soviet Union were not given the same college-education rights as white people in the Soviet Union. You are from the Soviet Union and you are white, so therefore, my people have been oppressed by your people by having been denied a college education. There are many more reasons why I have anger inside me but I will leave it at that for now. Your kind, zoo, has oppressed me for many generations and therefore, everyone will understand when I demand from you some reparations for your people's crimes against mine. You will listen to my insults to you and you will understand that had your people not oppressed my people in the past, I would not have this anger inside me that is causing me to lash out at you like this. "You can take an animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of an animal." - who gives a fuck who said that? II

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On black mathematicians: http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/madgreatest.html http://www.cs.appstate.edu/~sjg/womenandminoritiesinmath/student/blackwell/Blackwellpaperf.htm http://www.siam.org/siamnews/general/ima.htm Scientists in general: This one's good ... http://www.princeton.edu/~mcbrown/display/faces.html http://www.calacademy.org/research/library/biodiv/biblio/Africansci-update.htm There were 9.420 hits... DISTINGUISHED AFRICAN AMERICAN SCIENTISTS OF THE 20TH CENTURY James H. Kessler and others Phoenix, Az., Axyx Press, 1996 While most people can list without difficulty the names of eminent Black Americans in politics and sports, in music and movies, in law and literature, they cannot with equal ease list the names of famous African Americans in physics or mathematics, in chemistry or medicine. And yet, a great many Black Americans have worked actively and successfully in the various sciences as well. Many of them have achieved recognition and eminence in their fields. All too often, their names are known only to a handful. Appropriately, they are not referred to and remembered as Blacks, but simply as scientists in the scientific community at large. However, given the unfortunate racial stereotypes and misperceptions, it is important that Black children and adults, as well as other Americans, be told about them. The book under review serves this important purpose. It presents to the reader the lives and achievements of a hundred African Americans who have reached the highest academic levels in such diverse fields as anthropology and physics, mathematics and endocrinology, and more. The brief biographies are based on information gathered from a variety of sources including, in many cases, material provided by the subjects themselves. This is most valuable since we are able to see in the pages reflections of some of the personal struggles these outstanding individuals went through in order to accomplish hat they did. It is good that a young scientist like Mae C. Jemison who became the first African American (indeed the very first black) woman astronaut in included in the volume. Among the others who are listed are: George Carruthers who developed a far UV camera/spectrograph which was used in the Apollo missions to the moon; J. Ernest Wilkins who received his Ph.D. in Mathematics from the University of Chicago when he was barely nineteen years old; James Harris who played an active role in the synthesis of Rutherfordium; Herman R. Branson, a co-worker of Linus Pauling, who contributed to the identification of the alpha and gamma helical structures of proteins; Meredith Gourdine, the Olympic medalist and engineering physicist who invented many things and established his own company. It should be recalled that already between 1870 and 1900, black inventors had more than four hundred patents to their names. There have also been many eminent black women in science. Angela Ferguson who had to work in the grade school cafetaria to get her lunch, rose to become an eminent pediatrician, and served the cause of countless African American children. Evelyn Boyd Granville's father was a janitor in an apartment complex, but she managed to get her Ph.D. in mathematics from Yale. When segregation was still the norm in the South, Marie Maynard Daly received her doctorate from Columbia University (1947), becoming the first African American woman to get a Ph.D. in chemistry. Shirley Ann Jackson, a theoretical physicist, did her doctoral work at MIT, and became the first Black woman to work in the exclusive European Center for Nuclear Research in Switzerland. It is important for Black men and women to know about these individuals, not simply for the pride they bring to their hearts. Young children, both Black and White, should remember that many of the people mentioned in this book grew up under very difficult economic constraints, social injustices and racial prejudices, with very little encouragement from the outside. But they were individuals with enormous determination, sterling character, and sense of self-worth who struggled under intolerable conditions. These men and women devoted themselves to serious study and intellectual pursuits. They knew there was racism and prejudice in the society in which they lived, but they did not use this as an excuse for keeping away from books or building their own grammar and vocabulary. They did not waste their time and energy feeling bitter about the system or attributing every inadequacy to the shameful slavery era. Rather, they took full advantage of what little of the educational infra-structure of America was within their reach and achieved things for which they are now recognized and rewarded. They earned the respect they deserved by hard work and determination. They brought credit to their people. This book also demonstrates that with all the evils of prejudice that still linger in our society, and even if there is much justification for the endless ranting against racism by demagogues and hate-mongers, America is still a land where one can struggle against all odds and live up to one's fullest potentials. America too deserves some credit for making these achievements possible. There are thousands of Blacks who continue in the tradition of hard work and perseverance, but their stories are not brought to the attention of a wider public. Since the book limits itself to the twentieth century, men like Benjamin Banneker, the self-taught black mathematician of the eighteenth century who studied astronomy and wrote an almanac based on his calculations, and Edward A. Bouchet, the first black Ph.D. in physics who graduated from Yale University in the late nineteenth century, are not even mentioned. Fortunately, George Washington Carver, who became one of the most eminent agricultural chemists of his time, synthesizing more than 300 industrial products from peanuts and sweet potatoes, has found a place here. Carver's biography should be compulsory reading to all children. This commendable book does not include many others: For example, Clilian Powell who had an M.D. and was a specialist in x-ray physics, indeed one of the first radiologists; Lucey Craft Laney was not born free, but who graduated from Atlanta University as a nurse and established the Normal and Industrial Institute in Augusta, GA, and others. All too often, our media focus on the failures, the pests, and the criminally inclined, rather than on those who accomplish and achieve. Black children should read about African American scientists, for their lives serve as beacons that can transform their own aims and aspirations. Science is a collective enterprise in which men and women of all races and creeds, all colors and nationalities work together towards common goals: to offer rational interpretations of the phenomenal world on the basis of careful observations, analyses and reasonable conjectures; and to utilize our knowledge for the betterment of the human condition. In so far as it is productive and successful science is blind to national and ethnic boundaries. Barring destructive historical upheavals, the science of the next century will be even more enlightened and inclusive, unaffected by the apartheid appeals of counter-science movements. More Black students must enroll in the sciences and in technical disciplines and become integral parts of the scientific community. For this they have countless role-models to draw inspiration from, and this book offers them many such. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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Architects: http://architecture.about.com/cs/architectsmasters/tp/blackarchitects.htm Chess: Moors: Charles Covington, Lecturer (Jazz Piano), has enjoyed a remarkable career for more than 40 years as one of the most widely respected jazz musicians on the East Coast. He performed at the White House for President Jimmy Carter and appeared with George Benson on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. Other world-renowned musicians with whom Mr. Covington has worked include Sonny Sitt, Gene Ammons, Kenny Burrell, Milt Jackson, Clark Terry, Eddie Harris, Herbie Hancock, Gary Thomas, Gary Bartz, Dorothy Donegan, B. B. King, and Chuck Berry. He has shared celebrity performances with Sammy Davis, Jr., Eartha Kitt, Henry Kissinger, Larry King, Mrs. Estee Louder, Redd Fox, Flip Wilson, and Morey Amsterdam. In a leadership capacity Mr. Covington has served as the Music Director of "Jazz at Harbor Place" in Baltimore, artist-in-residence for BET on Jazz, artist-in-residence for the Tim and Daphne television show, and composed music for a segment of America's Most Wanted television show. He was featured on the cover of EXPO Magazine as "Jazz Musician of the Year." He has performed in China, Europe, and throughout the United States. Mr. Covington is the recipient of matching grants from the National Endowment for the Arts and the Rouse Company for the "Art in the Market Place" performance and lecture series. He has also been honored by the City Council of Baltimore in recognition of his contribution to the council for cultural progress. The University of Maryland's Department of African American Studies recognized him with a Certificate of Appreciation for his artistic contribution to the tradition and development of jazz music. In addition, he received certificates of appreciation from both the International Association of Jazz Educators and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Truly a renaissance man, Charles Covington has been granted "Master Chess Player for Life" status by the Chess Federation of the United States and is one of the top African American chess players in the United States. He is a professional magician who has performed both locally and nationally and his expertise in the visual arts shows a particular affinity for portraits. Mr. Covington joined the Howard University music faculty in 1994. Brooklyn, NY, Chess Player Becomes First Black Grandmaster.(Maurice Ashley inspires young black chess players)(Brief Article) Author/s: Issue: April 12, 1999 Maurice Ashley, a 33-year-old professional chess player who has been addicted to the sport since age 14, recently became the world's first Black grandmaster, the game's highest rank. He achieved the rank at a Manhattan Chess Club tournament by completing a rigorous set of requirements at high-level chess tournaments in a set time period. "The stereotype in this country is that African-Americans don't do well at things like chess," he said. "We're understood as physically gifted and great entertainers, but when it comes to something intellectual, that lags behind." Ashley, a Jamaican immigrant who lives in Brooklyn, is now one of 470 grandmasters worldwide. And his accomplishment has given an extra boost of confidence to young Black chess players. "My success will show Black youngsters that they can be successful at any intellectual pursuit," Ashley told the New York Post. "He made me believe that I could do it because we're both minority," said Brian Ovalle, a 13-year-old Dominican-American on the Mott Hall Dark Knights, a team Ashley coached. "It's like when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier." The team won a national championship under Ashley's tutelage in 1994. Ashley, a graduate of New York City College who held the rank of international master before his recent accomplishment, honed his chess skills with the Black Bears School of Chess, an informal group of young Black players. He later became chess director of the Harlem Educational Activities Fund, where he coached several young teams, including the Dark Knights. In 1997, he decided to devote himself totally to the sport in order to attain his goal of grandmaster. The husband and father of a 4-year-old daughter who plays the game told the New York Times that his being the first Black grandmaster is very sweet. "It makes it much sweeter," he said. "It's not significant to me to be the best Black chess player in the world. But it is sweet to be the first." Emory Tate -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That was an amazing game with Maurice! There are only a few players to ever achieve a GM title without having earned the IM. The last U.S. player to do this, to my recollection, was GM Larry Christiansen. Emory has proved he has the strength, but he will have to be more consistent... you can't crush a GM and then lose to a 2200-2300 master. Tate has made a mark. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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The Panthers are one faction of black culture.... Alot of black people consider them extreme....I'm surprised you seem not to know this. It seems more like a manipulation to prop up a weak argument. Cuz honestly, this black people are genetically mentally inferior thing is the ugliest most racist thing I have ever heard. There have been extremists groups in Russian culture, no? And frankly I don't see anything wrong with what they want. That list is a manifesto & most manifestos are written in that kind of language with that kind of breadth & scope. It's typical of the genre. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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"But never yet could I find that a black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration; never see even an elementary trait of painting or sculpture. In music they are more generally gifted than the whites with accurate ears for tune and time, and they have been found capable of imagining a small catch. Whether they will be equal to the composition of a more extensive run of melody, or of complicated harmony, is yet to be proved. Misery is often the parent of the most affecting touches in poetry. -- Among the blacks is misery enough, God knows, but no poetry." The third President of the United States, Jefferson, Thomas, 1743-1826. Notes on the State of Virginia, QUERY XIV.

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Not surprising for a slave owner..... Didn't stop him from having an affair with a slave.... How sad & hateful all of this kind of talk is.... How hurtful to so many.... to black people especially black children... to explain to them the history of slavery & the struggle for basic civil rights....I can't imagine how painful it must be for a black parent to have to explain to their child that there are people out there who would dismiss their light simply because of the darkness of their skin... Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Western Civ has got to go! The multicultural or Afrocentric movement began in the '60s as an attempt to broaden the education that our children were receiving by including the historic contributions of blacks. While quite a laudable initial goal, Afrocentrism quickly degenerated into the promotion of mythology and as a weapon used not to uplift black culture so much as to abuse Western Civilization curricula. It is common to hear black students on our college campuses say, "I'm tired of learning about DWM (dead white males)." Undoubtedly these students -- referring to the works of intellectual pioneers such as Shakespeare, Socrates and Freud -- have been greatly influenced by leaders such as Jesse Jackson who have pushed very hard for changing the curriculum of our history classes. After all, it was Jackson who in 1985 led a protest at Berkeley to change the core curriculum with the chant, "Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Western Civ has got to go!" (Tellingly, Jackson has backed off his initial criticism of Ebonics.) The United States is at a crossroads. By the year 2050, white Americans will be in the minority for the first time. For the great American experiment to continue to be successful we must promote ideas and values that bind us, not break us. Ebonics is just a symptom of a much broader disease of cultural balkanization that is ripping us apart. http://wakingbear.com/ebony2.htm

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Random, great points!! Really, you've found some cool info :) Exactly, the point is that at the current rate of multiplication of the minorities, whites will become a minority themselves in a not too distant future, and that will be very harmful to this country. With more and more political power and influence that the minorities will be acquiring, many vital political issues may be overlooked in favor of the racial aspects and so on. This will be a mess. We need to abolish all affirmative action laws.

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SMU shuts down race-based bake sale DALLAS, Texas (AP) --Southern Methodist University shut down a bake sale Wednesday in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the buyer's race or gender. The sale was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action. A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks. Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions. Similar sales have been held by College Republican chapters at colleges in at least five other states since February. A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation. "This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the SMU student center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created." The sale drew a crowd outside the student center and several students engaged in a shouting match, Moore said. David C. Rushing, 23, a law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispies treats, he said. "We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said. Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive. "My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization." The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. In Texas, universities had been banned from using race as a factor under a 1996 decision by a lower court. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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Folks - look at this dumb statement. "it's not based on race. It's based on bringing diversity." See? black people say some dumb shit. diversity. diversity is a word that tries to nicely cover up RACISM against white people. black people are the biggest fucking racists. they are much worse than white people. "You can take an animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of an animal." - who gives a fuck who said that? II

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II: That is ridiculous. It's a welcoming of diversity in this country that has allowed all immigrants to be here. American the melting pot. Universities should be a melting pot as well. And you an avowed racist- certainly making judgements on people's mental capacity based on race is exactly that... complains about racism... intensely insane. Alex: Racial aspects are important to the people of races which are being discriminated against in the struggle for survival. The struggle for survival of one's self & one's children is a fundamental & inalienable struggle. You can not like it all you want... but people of oppressed groups will fight to survive.. they will fight to be respected & to live in dignity & be included in social life....no matter what. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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WRONG. Universities should have all students who have earned and qualified to go there. Diversity is not important. If it happens that currently in this country black people are the smartest, than I would like to see more black in college than anyone else. but right now, blacks are getting to go to college for 'diversity' reasons, often taking the place of someone who has much better grades and is much brighter than that black person. this is not diversity. this is racism. whites are being discriminated against each and every time a white person is denied entrance to a college and that spot is given to a weaker student who happens to be black. This is racism and this needs to stop. If a black person has earned entrace to a college, it is just as wrong to deny this black person this opportunity simply because the person is black. However, doing the same in reverse to white people is just as wrong, and this is what is going on in this country. At Michigan State, on the college entrace qualifications, someone got 3 points for a perfect SAT (only about 10 people per year in the entire United States are able to score so high on the SAT test) and someone who is black would get 20 (!!) points. This means that just for being black is MUCH more regarded than scoring on of the top scores in the nation on the SAT test. This is racism, Anais - and as long as you do not acknowledge this, your words of defense for blacks will never have any meaning. Anais, if you at least admitted that this is racism in reverse, than we would see that you are a reasonable individual and we would listen to you reason with us about being wrong on many things in regard to the black-race issues. However, because you are so out of touch with reality by denying obvious reverse discriminations against whites, your words have no credence. It is sad, indeed, because if I was black and I wanted someone to speak up for me, I would want that person to be reasonable so that person could reach others in his/her message. However, you will never reach any of us (though you are desperately trying) because you sit there and mock us by denying each and every example of reverse discrimination we have brought forth. "You can take an animal out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of an animal." - who gives a fuck who said that? II

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It's a vicious circle II. Education begets brains begets opportunity begets education & brains & opportunity.... Black people were denied a decent education- thru racism- up until the 1960's. The parents of people applying today. The idea is to level the playing field & undo damage that was unjustly caused in terms of this vicious cycle... As well, I think affirmative action also applies to chosing between equal candidates. Anais "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anais Nin

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