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Originally posted by KGBMan:
I cannot say this about France, England or US . Not at all. All 3 are very dangerous and were part of multiple genocides.
Israel, for the most part just defended itself, sometimes in a very weird and illogical way, but still.
Russia - yes, I agree with you 
You are such a maximalist! :)
since when being for the truth is being maximalist ?
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Yes, any superpower is dangerous to weak rogue nations
who defines "rogue" nations ?
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(of course, not Russia/USSR, god forbid 
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well, if they were, I don;t know about it. Show it to me ?
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But they don't realistically threaten each other, while Iran is a threat to every nation in the region.
That statement has to be proven.
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Muslim countries are voting for sanctions. Come on, this is totally different.
How ?
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Regime is unpredictable
Why ?
what have they
done that was unpredictable ?
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constant erratic statements
If they are constant, than they are not unpredictable.
Really, has their retorick changed at all since revolution ?
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mental patients and religious zealots are on government like flies on shit,
are you a doctor ?
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extremism is high
where ?
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the country is just NOT ready to hold the remote.
I can't believe you guys don't see this.
well, actualy Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the muslim world.
Prior to recent US paranoya flair up, they were moving toward even more liberalization...
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Originally posted by KGBMan:
Also, posting quotes from JPost is like posting them from La Figaro or Entertainment weekly, you have to divide by 100 to get something close to truth...
Google these quotes and pick any source you respect.
I like 412's quote
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Originally posted by KGBMan:
Also, why are you so afraid of Iran ? He has no capability to do anything with Israel or US. His nuclear program right now is completely inside guidance by MAGATE (or what ever it's name is in English), no deviations.
So why ???
I kind of aswered this above.
no, you kind of didn't
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Look, you are prepared to defend the sanity and predictability of this government.
no, I merely point at the weaknesses of your arguments.
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You know these are not all forces vying for power in a completely dysfunctional political system. Any of them are an accident away from power. Are you prepared to defend them all?
not sure what you just said, but in Iran there is one force in power, no one is even remotely close to it ....
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Because extremist revolutions will continue - they are at that evolutionary stage. But the weapons are always there...
one person extremist is another person freedom fighter
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Originally posted by KGBMan:
Why there is this push to war coming from West ??
There is no push for war from the entire west, mostly just the US.
and France now
of all.... so funny
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And it could be a bluff. Not by design, but there is just no political will here. Iran knows that.
Even simple air raids will require a drastic change in the current stalemate.
I don;t believe US is capable of bluffing.... not with current elite...
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Originally posted by KGBMan:
before you write me off as another fun of iranian system, I don;t care about them one way or another. I just see the same pattern as was used with Jugoslavia and Kosovo and Iraq etc.
someone chooses a target, mass media makes an evil of that target regardless if there is anything even remotely close to evil there and than US or NATO bombs the living hell out of innocent people.
Me - I don;t think that's right.
Of course.
But as they say - tough luck.
These innocent people have not yet achieved liberalization of society where their government protects their interests. Very sad.
see, there you go again - everybody have to be the same.......
WTF ???
- Независимость - это когда в 20-й раз наступаешь на одни и те же грабли, а русские уже ни при чем....
