Nostalgia for CCCP?
Last post 07-27-2007, 6:29 PM by James Bond. 111 replies.
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ribelk
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quote: Originally posted by James Bond:
These analogies and metaphors y'all come up with are exhausting to decipher.
If you are selling peanut butter cookies at a public bake sale, and somebody that's allergic to peanuts comes up to your table, do you hide all the cookies so they aren't offended?
The Cold War ended on December 26, 1991 with the dissolution of the USSR.
What comes after that is a new chapter.
That was 16 years ago - not long after 'young buck' was born.
JB,what you said is complete BS....
1.people come here and want to stay here and hopefully integrate into the society(or whatever, I don't really want to use "big " words now).... and there is no problems with bringing your own heritage and making it part of what your life is all about, what defines you, interests you, etc.,.... but why sticking it to other people 's faces....Is it a National Pride Parade?... and especially since we for the most part are American Citizens by choice.... who are they trying to kid? whatever you try to say with Public bake sale---I didn't get it
2. Cold War might've ended then the way it used to be... but it's been a long time since it's restarted... it might be labeled differentely and rules of the game and means are different, and in todays "war" there maybe more parties than just 2 involved... but it doesn't change the core of it...you should listen to Russian (Anti-american) TV sometimes...IMHO of course...
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07-29-2007, 12:41 PM |
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Sappho
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quote: Originally posted by IntensityInsanity:
you know, someone who wears svastika could also say that it doesn't mean they hate jews or believe in superior race - it just means they remember the 'good' times of germans - after all, nazis did do some good things, take germany out of poverty, etc.
You have to be kidding!!! The only good association that one may have with the symbol of swastika is Buddhism/Hinduism, where this symbol has been standing for "well-being" for centuries. And the West (Germany) has corrupted the meaning of this symbol in 1920s. Now the usage of this symbol poses a great controversy.
quote: Originally posted by IntensityInsanity:
now, i'm not writing this out of russopobia...there's plenty of positive things about ussr/russia that can be exhibited in different ways. chess memorabilia (ussr is biggest donor in history to this wonderful game, even if behind it where notsogood intentions), great russian writers/poets, sports achievements, great kings (peter the great), the best-tasting food in the world, etc.
Great Russian writers that everyone talks about came out of Russia in the 19th century and 20th centuries. Many of them came out of the USSR, not Russia. Peter the Great was a visionary king, but was he great? Do you realize that he murdered his own son? Do you realize that hundreds of thousands of people died building the grand city of Saint Petersburg on the cold marsh lands of the North? Is he great? Maybe, all depends on how you define "great." Best-tasting food is Russian? Wise people say "о вкусах не спорят" ... so I won't :)
quote: Originally posted by IntensityInsanity:
but CCCR? i've had too many family members who spend years in siberia (my father's side of family were gold/jewelry handlers who got rounded up and sent off just because they wouldn't say who in the town had gold/jewelry). jews were discriminated, and many horrible things were done by this 'regime'.
I don't know much about Jewish persecution in the USSR, and I am sorry to hear that your family went through all of this. I know of some Jewish people who lived in the USSR and never felt like they were treated any differently from the rest. USSR has achieved in decades what would've taken much longer for the Russian tsars to achieve: industrialization and education. These are HUGE achievements.
quote: Originally posted by IntensityInsanity:
but ignorance of americans has nothing to do with distaste of CCCR bumper stickers.
I disagree. Most Americans know nothing about USSR, and whoever does seem to possess some knowledge, it usually is very one-sided. So they dislike these stickers for all the wrong reasons. Saying that the USSR sticker is the same as the German swastika is INSANE, and is a result of American education...
"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato
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07-29-2007, 12:45 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by James Bond:
These analogies and metaphors y'all come up with are exhausting to decipher.
If you are selling peanut butter cookies at a public bake sale, and somebody that's allergic to peanuts comes up to your table, do you hide all the cookies so they aren't offended?
Good response to a "not-so-good" analogy!
quote: Originally posted by James Bond:
The Cold War ended on December 26, 1991 with the dissolution of the USSR.
What comes after that is a new chapter.
That was 16 years ago - not long after 'young buck' was born.
ha ha ha!!!
"Some say the Muses are nine: how careless! Look, there's Sappho too, from Lesbos, the tenth." Plato
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